Man, so real. As soon as I saw the title of this one, I thought about the SNL skit in 2016 with Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock who were the only unsurprised people in a room full of liberal white folks whose reality was about to be shattered when Trump won the election. Feels like the only thing we can do is emotionally prepare ourselves for round two. I don’t like thinking that way, I mean, I do believe in miracles, but.... 🫠
This is it right here: “The failure of white people to confront other white people demonstrates the pervasive seduction of white supremacy — it lulls many into a state of passive complicity.” After Trump won in 2016 I had conversations with several people I went to high school with - all white - and we are no longer friends. They couldn’t even hear what I was saying, could only praise Trump. It was horrifying. I have family members I no longer speak to for the same reasons. January 6 was horrifying, and it makes me sick that Trump is still walking free, but like you said, it’s not at all surprising. Thank you, as always, for saying what needs to be said.
If people having different opinions than you is "horrifying," you might want to seek some professional help. I know this will be "horrifying" for you also... but as a black man, I would rather see Trump in office than the guy that wrote the 94-crime-bill and used it to imprison hundreds of thousands of black men disproportionately. I would rather not have the only living politician in office that co-sponsored a bill to segregate white and black kids(Biden). I would rather Trump than have a VP(Kamala) that defied the supreme court ruling to release 5,000 non-violent black men in CA so she could use them as free labor(keeping black men in cages to work for free is modern slavery). Ho horrifying this must be for you to hear that you cant keep having your modern slave drivers in office.... cause: "wHiTe SuPrEmAcY bRo"
“This white privilege allows the narrative to be about 'differences of opinion' rather than a confrontation with the undercurrents of white supremacy.”
And this is why I no longer associate with certain people. They refuse to do the deep self analysis that would allow them to see that it is indeed white supremacy/privilege, and not just a difference of opinion.
So, voting for the man that wrote the 94 crime bill that ruined hundreds of thousands of black families lives and is the only active politician to co-sponsor a bill to segregate white and black kids is the deep reflection that you possessed?
How about his VP that defied the supreme court ruling to release 5000 nonviolent black men so she could use them as free labor for the state? Thats called modern slavery. Was that where you celebrated your deep understanding of yourself and thwarted white supremacy???
Sounds more like you voted for white supremacy and now you're coping with your consequences by deflection to others.
"Or, they know they are okay with it." - that was truly a statement about yourself.
This was such an important message. Thank you for writing and sharing this. I feel like I restacked every other line (what's new?) but I don't think I've ever read it so perfectly and plainly said -- it has to be a personal reckoning because if not, we are just as complicit. Thank you for your words, always. They make the world a better place one paradigm-shift at a time.
That's about right, today 'anti-semitism' is anybody a ZIONIST doesn't like
So why not a raycist be anybody a white-hater doesn't like;
I have called many of non-white 'friends' out on their hypocrisy, and they all just stare at me and say, 'Bashing whites is a one way street, don't you know bro"??
NO, I don't know, unless your definition of language says that bashing whites is not raycism, but bashing niggers is raycism; But then, this is the world the the ZOG has delivered the people where they're to be hated by the color of their skin;
You and many liberal demorats suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Hilariously you believe all your foolish lies like Jan 6 and basement sleepy Joe s ‘win’, etc
Thank you, it’s a breath of fresh air to read this expressed this so clearly.
I imagine it’s tough to convince a Trump supporter to change their mind, given that their views aren’t based on rational reasoning or facts.
I’m concerned though that simply cutting people off leads to mutual ‘othering’.
What I’m talking about is how the far-right (and Christian conservative right) has so successfully appropriated and twisted the social justice narrative of the left.
I don’t know about anyone else but let’s take my father, who supports Brexit, a political view that belongs to the same brand of fearful white supremacy, although he would not acknowledge this. He has not changed his mind because of my arguing against him. He simply writes me off as poorly informed and sends me links to the EU-Brexit agreement or ‘delightful’ articles in The Philadelphia Trumpet for my edification!!
How can we take a stand without polarising society?
boy, the RACISM TOWARD WHITES IS STAGGERING HERE...stop with the jealousy about whites building this country...and don't get me started on "diversity hires"...those idiots are the reason companies now have to hire the WHITE CONSULTANTS to fix the DOLTS BOTCHING EVERY JOB cuz the "diverse" are mostly dumb. Just look at BIG FANNY WILLIS...what a low IQ joke so a perfect example of horrific "DEI" ..:hopefully that means "DIE"'s real soon...
Always enjoy your pieces, thank you for writing this.
An area I struggle with, or am always trying to figure out how to navigate, is the perceived "persuadables." Certainly, there is a (majority) slice of Trump's support (well, there are many slices but I'm just going to distill these to two for the purposes of this comment) that is immovable. They are overt racists/white supremacists, or just committed Republicans who would never admit to being that, but are okay with it existing if it helps them get what they want in the forms of conservative justice, lower taxes, etc. Many of these folks are of the type I have removed from my circles after having probing conversations, discussions, and arguments.
But there is another kind of voter, the "persuadable." The person who votes a soft R, and who seems pliable if I can figure out how to shift their paradigm slightly. I'm thinking here of someone like my father, who voted for Trump in 2016, but was furious with him by 2020 and who I finally convinced to shift his perspective on these issues and on his voting patterns by explaining the long-term impact of de facto and de jure racism of past and present housing policy in the US on the net worth of Black families.
Is it not our job as white people to hold the former group accountable (and make them pay the price for their actions), but to also try to build our movement/community by engaging with the hostility/racism of those whom we might be able to deprogram?
I don't know the answer. It's something I struggle to figure out. And maybe I'm in the wrong for throwing this lifeline to people who have committed the act of violence of supporting Trump. But opening it up here as a conversation starter. Maybe someone else is thinking the same thing and wants to know they aren't alone...or has thought about the same thing and has an answer.
I applaud your success with your father. I've had MANY conversations with White people in my circles whom I've been wholly unable to budge. They can't see the racism. Or if they can, they ignore the impact of that in favor of trying to get abortion banned, which is their sole important issue (Evangelical conservatives). At this point, I have no relationship with these people, though we do sit across the table from one another at kid birthdays and holidays. But we don't actually speak, so, not sure where that leaves me.
At any rate, we're trying and the resistance is real.
Thank you for this reminder, I guess we need them...sigh. Here's my take:
2024's consequential election season looms. Psychiatrist Ravi Chandra takes a look at the Far-Right playbook and the choice between autocratic and egalitarian-in-progress choices, with a focus on psychology, propaganda, and dangerous influences that are amplifying chances of violence.
MOSF 18.12: Election Season 2024: Deconstructing the Trump/Far-Right Playbook and Propaganda, and Constructing a Positive Response From Our Shared Humanity and Reality – East Wind ezine (December 1, 2023)
Man, so real. As soon as I saw the title of this one, I thought about the SNL skit in 2016 with Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock who were the only unsurprised people in a room full of liberal white folks whose reality was about to be shattered when Trump won the election. Feels like the only thing we can do is emotionally prepare ourselves for round two. I don’t like thinking that way, I mean, I do believe in miracles, but.... 🫠
This is it right here: “The failure of white people to confront other white people demonstrates the pervasive seduction of white supremacy — it lulls many into a state of passive complicity.” After Trump won in 2016 I had conversations with several people I went to high school with - all white - and we are no longer friends. They couldn’t even hear what I was saying, could only praise Trump. It was horrifying. I have family members I no longer speak to for the same reasons. January 6 was horrifying, and it makes me sick that Trump is still walking free, but like you said, it’s not at all surprising. Thank you, as always, for saying what needs to be said.
If people having different opinions than you is "horrifying," you might want to seek some professional help. I know this will be "horrifying" for you also... but as a black man, I would rather see Trump in office than the guy that wrote the 94-crime-bill and used it to imprison hundreds of thousands of black men disproportionately. I would rather not have the only living politician in office that co-sponsored a bill to segregate white and black kids(Biden). I would rather Trump than have a VP(Kamala) that defied the supreme court ruling to release 5,000 non-violent black men in CA so she could use them as free labor(keeping black men in cages to work for free is modern slavery). Ho horrifying this must be for you to hear that you cant keep having your modern slave drivers in office.... cause: "wHiTe SuPrEmAcY bRo"
“This white privilege allows the narrative to be about 'differences of opinion' rather than a confrontation with the undercurrents of white supremacy.”
And this is why I no longer associate with certain people. They refuse to do the deep self analysis that would allow them to see that it is indeed white supremacy/privilege, and not just a difference of opinion.
Or, they know and are okay with it.
So, voting for the man that wrote the 94 crime bill that ruined hundreds of thousands of black families lives and is the only active politician to co-sponsor a bill to segregate white and black kids is the deep reflection that you possessed?
How about his VP that defied the supreme court ruling to release 5000 nonviolent black men so she could use them as free labor for the state? Thats called modern slavery. Was that where you celebrated your deep understanding of yourself and thwarted white supremacy???
Sounds more like you voted for white supremacy and now you're coping with your consequences by deflection to others.
"Or, they know they are okay with it." - that was truly a statement about yourself.
A powerful piece from beginning to end. Thank you.
Powerful article, I’ll be thinking about for days...But THIS IS some good news! Donald to pay 83 million to E. Jean Kelly for rape. Here’s some accountability happening in real time ➡️https://open.substack.com/pub/marytrump/p/now-donald-owes-83-million-to-e-jean?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This was such an important message. Thank you for writing and sharing this. I feel like I restacked every other line (what's new?) but I don't think I've ever read it so perfectly and plainly said -- it has to be a personal reckoning because if not, we are just as complicit. Thank you for your words, always. They make the world a better place one paradigm-shift at a time.
What a cuck this guy is. What’s the definition of a racist? Anyone who disagrees with a progressive
That's about right, today 'anti-semitism' is anybody a ZIONIST doesn't like
So why not a raycist be anybody a white-hater doesn't like;
I have called many of non-white 'friends' out on their hypocrisy, and they all just stare at me and say, 'Bashing whites is a one way street, don't you know bro"??
NO, I don't know, unless your definition of language says that bashing whites is not raycism, but bashing niggers is raycism; But then, this is the world the the ZOG has delivered the people where they're to be hated by the color of their skin;
But the good news which I concur by sister OPRAH "Them Jews SURE look white to me" hell yes, they look white to all us nigga's
You and many liberal demorats suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Hilariously you believe all your foolish lies like Jan 6 and basement sleepy Joe s ‘win’, etc
Thank you, it’s a breath of fresh air to read this expressed this so clearly.
I imagine it’s tough to convince a Trump supporter to change their mind, given that their views aren’t based on rational reasoning or facts.
I’m concerned though that simply cutting people off leads to mutual ‘othering’.
What I’m talking about is how the far-right (and Christian conservative right) has so successfully appropriated and twisted the social justice narrative of the left.
I don’t know about anyone else but let’s take my father, who supports Brexit, a political view that belongs to the same brand of fearful white supremacy, although he would not acknowledge this. He has not changed his mind because of my arguing against him. He simply writes me off as poorly informed and sends me links to the EU-Brexit agreement or ‘delightful’ articles in The Philadelphia Trumpet for my edification!!
How can we take a stand without polarising society?
Sorry, just to add that I do understand that American society is already polarised between white and black, privilege and the lack of it!
I’m not arguing against your call to action, far from it!
boy, the RACISM TOWARD WHITES IS STAGGERING HERE...stop with the jealousy about whites building this country...and don't get me started on "diversity hires"...those idiots are the reason companies now have to hire the WHITE CONSULTANTS to fix the DOLTS BOTCHING EVERY JOB cuz the "diverse" are mostly dumb. Just look at BIG FANNY WILLIS...what a low IQ joke so a perfect example of horrific "DEI" ..:hopefully that means "DIE"'s real soon...
Always enjoy your pieces, thank you for writing this.
An area I struggle with, or am always trying to figure out how to navigate, is the perceived "persuadables." Certainly, there is a (majority) slice of Trump's support (well, there are many slices but I'm just going to distill these to two for the purposes of this comment) that is immovable. They are overt racists/white supremacists, or just committed Republicans who would never admit to being that, but are okay with it existing if it helps them get what they want in the forms of conservative justice, lower taxes, etc. Many of these folks are of the type I have removed from my circles after having probing conversations, discussions, and arguments.
But there is another kind of voter, the "persuadable." The person who votes a soft R, and who seems pliable if I can figure out how to shift their paradigm slightly. I'm thinking here of someone like my father, who voted for Trump in 2016, but was furious with him by 2020 and who I finally convinced to shift his perspective on these issues and on his voting patterns by explaining the long-term impact of de facto and de jure racism of past and present housing policy in the US on the net worth of Black families.
Is it not our job as white people to hold the former group accountable (and make them pay the price for their actions), but to also try to build our movement/community by engaging with the hostility/racism of those whom we might be able to deprogram?
I don't know the answer. It's something I struggle to figure out. And maybe I'm in the wrong for throwing this lifeline to people who have committed the act of violence of supporting Trump. But opening it up here as a conversation starter. Maybe someone else is thinking the same thing and wants to know they aren't alone...or has thought about the same thing and has an answer.
I applaud your success with your father. I've had MANY conversations with White people in my circles whom I've been wholly unable to budge. They can't see the racism. Or if they can, they ignore the impact of that in favor of trying to get abortion banned, which is their sole important issue (Evangelical conservatives). At this point, I have no relationship with these people, though we do sit across the table from one another at kid birthdays and holidays. But we don't actually speak, so, not sure where that leaves me.
At any rate, we're trying and the resistance is real.
BARZ!
Thank you for this reminder, I guess we need them...sigh. Here's my take:
2024's consequential election season looms. Psychiatrist Ravi Chandra takes a look at the Far-Right playbook and the choice between autocratic and egalitarian-in-progress choices, with a focus on psychology, propaganda, and dangerous influences that are amplifying chances of violence.
MOSF 18.12: Election Season 2024: Deconstructing the Trump/Far-Right Playbook and Propaganda, and Constructing a Positive Response From Our Shared Humanity and Reality – East Wind ezine (December 1, 2023)
https://eastwindezine.com/mosf-18-12-election-season-2024-deconstructing-the-trump-far-right-playbook-and-propaganda/
Oh how I wish I was a nigger, and then I could find a tribe that would accept me; :)